With all due Respect
Episode 127
The Controlling Church
This week, Michael and Megan tackle the difficult topic of church control.
They discuss how much—if any—control churches should be allowed to have over members and how to safeguard against any misuse of power by leaders.
Christian psychologist Kylie Walls then joins the show for a sobering discussion on spiritual abuse, before our hosts review the hit podcast Sons of Patriarchy, which deals with the hyper-conservative ministry of Douglas Wilson.
If this episode has raised concerns for you, help is available. Call 1800 737 732, or head to the website 1800respect.org.au.
- (01:20) – – For Arguments Sake
- (18:42) – – Be Our Guest
- (51:05) – – Through The Wardrobe
22 May 2025 runtime 1H 6M 50S
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The Chemists
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With all due Respect
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The Controlling Church
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Bonhoeffer
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Ian never wanted to be a doctor. But after seeing the gaps in diagnostic testing available in the developing world, he pursued a career as an Infectious Disease Physician. Ian was working in Timor-Leste when COVID-19 struck, and explains the pandemic’s devastating impact on this small nation.

End COVID For All – Tim Costello
COVID-19 is not over for anyone, until it’s over for everyone. And while Australia has been a leader in ‘flattening the curve’, too many of our global neighbours are far worse off. In fact, they’re in crisis. Tim Costello talks exclusively about why Micah Australia have taken the lead on a nationwide campaign called #EndCOVIDForAll.

Hope on the streets of Lesotho – Josh and Belinda Groves
Eight years ago Belinda went to the African nation of Lesotho to help oversee national elections. After being confronted by hundreds of children living on the streets, she never came back to Australia. Josh and Belinda Groves share their story of leaving comfortable lives, to rehabilitate children living on the streets of Lesotho.
Life in Wartime
The COVID-19 epidemic has brought upon us all the moral challenges associated with living in a state of constant conflict. We have to choose how we’re going to respond to this global threat day by day, and David Robertson and Stephen McAlpine from Third Space are here to help you think through the implications of the messages we’re hearing, and how God would have us live in these challenging times.

Evangelism In Wartime
Since Jesus’ granting of the Great Commission, in season and out, His followers have sought to spread the good news. But what does evangelism look like in a world locked down by anxiety?

The Weapons of Wartime
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Am I just lonely?
Is there a point to dating – or am I just lonely? And if God wants me to date, what is it he’s looking for in a prospective partner?

Why date online?
So you’ve decided God’s got someone special for you out there. Why go looking for her or him online? What are the advantages to online dating?

Profile me
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Mother, Daughter and the Black Cloud of Depression
One in five young Australians say they are struggling with their mental health, and suicide is the leading cause of death for those aged 15-24. So how do parents cope when it’s their child who doesn’t want to live? Run Like a Woman’s co-host Penny Mulvey and her daughter Holly open up about their personal journey with anxiety and depression.

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Jenny Salt is a Christian academic, a graduate and former lecturer at Sydney Missionary and Bible College (SMBC). Join her on a forty-minute journey into someone’s amazing and often unexpected spiritual travels. Missionaries and media makers, scientists and sportspeople, new agers and new migrants – Salt is a chance to enter into the lives of people and discover heartwarming, sometimes challenging and always extraordinary gospel stories.

The paramedic’s mate – Mal
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Faith under fire – David
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Undeceptions
Every week on Undeceptions we’ll explore some aspect of life, faith, history, culture, or ethics that is either much misunderstood or mostly forgotten. With the help of people who know what they’re talking about, we’ll be trying to ‘undeceive ourselves’ and let the truth ‘out’.
REWIND: Emotional Intelligence
<p>Some think we might not be too far away from Artificial Intelligence actually having feelings. If it does happen, what will it mean? Might it mean we humans are, in the end, just machines? We look back at that question – and more – in this <em>Undeceptions </em>Rewind!</p><p>If you like what you hear, listen to the episode in full: Episode 71 ‘Emotional Intelligence’.</p>

Boy Jesus
<p><strong>The Gospels tell us about Jesus’ adult life, with scant references to his childhood.<br></strong><br></p><p><strong>We can catch glimpses of the younger Jesus’ life, but there’s so much we don’t know.<br></strong><br></p><p><strong>But if we move beyond the Bible, we </strong><strong><em>can</em></strong><strong> learn about the world the younger Jesus lived in.<br></strong><br></p><p><strong>Growing up a refugee, in a land under foreign occupation, and a region full of militia groups, it’s worth asking: How did the turbulent background of the boy Jesus affect His message … and the whole of Christianity?</strong></p><p>CREDITS</p><p>Undeceptions is hosted by John Dickson, produced by Kaley Payne and directed by Mark Hadley. </p><p><br></p><p>Alasdair Belling is a writer-researcher.</p><p><br></p><p>Siobhan McGuiness is our online librarian. </p><p><br></p><p>Lyndie Leviston remains John’s wonderful assistant. </p><p> </p><p>Santino Dimarco is the Chief Finance and Operations Consultant. </p><p><br></p><p>Editing by Richard Hamwi.</p><p><br></p><p>Our voice actors today were Yannick Lawry and Dakotah Love.</p><p><br></p><p>Special thanks to our series sponsor Zondervan for making this Undeception possible. </p><p><br></p><p>Undeceptions is the flagship podcast of Undeceptions.com – letting the truth out.</p><p><strong></strong></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:08) – – Judea: A difficult province to govern </li> <li>(08:42) – – Herod </li> <li>(16:48) – – Growing up Judean </li> <li>(21:00) – – Was Jesus actually from the line of King David? </li> <li>(29:35) – – The massacre of the innocents </li> <li>(33:31) – – Was Jesus born in Bethlehem? </li> <li>(42:28) – – Jesus the refugee </li> <li>(50:05) – – Growing up in Galilee </li> <li>(01:01:50) – – Jesus the patriot </li> <li>(01:04:44) – – BONUS! Joan Taylor and Monty Python </li> </ul>

The Chemists
<p><strong>According to the data, chemistry is the scientific discipline with the highest number of ”theists”.<br></strong><br></p><p><strong>Perhaps it’s not that surprising: Chemistry grew out of alchemy, a mysterious science that attempted to uncover the secrets of nature, with goals some would consider supernatural.<br></strong><br></p><p><strong>Modern chemists are also working to uncover the secrets of nature. <br></strong><br></p><p><strong>For some, seeing just how ordered the world is has led them to wonder whether there might be more going on behind the scenes than mere chemistry.</strong></p><p>CREDITS</p><p>Undeceptions is hosted by John Dickson, produced by Kaley Payne and directed by Mark Hadley. </p><p><br></p><p>Alasdair Belling is a writer-researcher.</p><p><br></p><p>Siobhan McGuiness is our online librarian. </p><p><br></p><p>Lyndie Leviston remains John’s wonderful assistant. </p><p> </p><p>Santino Dimarco is the Chief Finance and Operations Consultant. </p><p><br></p><p>Editing by Richard Hamwi.</p><p><br></p><p>Our voice actors today were Yannick Lawry and Dakotah Love.</p><p><br></p><p>Special thanks to our series sponsor Zondervan for making this Undeception possible. </p><p><br></p><p>Undeceptions is the flagship podcast of Undeceptions.com – letting the truth out.</p>
With all due Respect
Less aggro, more conversation. Is it even possible to have a deep discussion without it descending into chaos? Michael Jensen and Megan Powell du Toit think yes, and want to show the rest of us how to do it. There’s plenty of things they disagree on: free will, feminism, where you should send your kids to school and what type of church you should go to. But there are also plenty of other things that they have in common. They want to talk about all these things with conviction. But they also want the conversation to be constructive. Tune in to find out if that’s possible.

The Controlling Church
<p>This week, Michael and Megan tackle the difficult topic of church control. </p><p>They discuss how much—if any—control churches should be allowed to have over members and how to safeguard against any misuse of power by leaders.</p><p>Christian psychologist Kylie Walls then joins the show for a sobering discussion on spiritual abuse, before our hosts review the hit podcast <em>Sons of Patriarchy,</em> which deals with the hyper-conservative ministry of Douglas Wilson.</p><p>If this episode has raised concerns for you, help is available. Call 1800 737 732, or head to the website 1800respect.org.au.</p><p></p><ul><li>(01:20) – – For Arguments Sake </li> <li>(18:42) – – Be Our Guest </li> <li>(51:05) – – Through The Wardrobe</li> </ul>

Bonhoeffer
<p>The recent feature film ‘Bonhoeffer: Pastor. Spy. Assassin’ attracted controversy for its portrayal of Europe’s most celebrated martyr of the 20th century.</p><p>There are so many questions surrounding the life of Bonhoeffer – chief among them, how involved was he in the botched 20 July plot to kill Hitler?</p><p>Our hosts this week share their thoughts on the film and are also joined by Center for Pastor Theologians President Dr. Joel Lawrence to discuss Bonhoeffer’s life and work.</p><p>Finally, Michael and Megan try to define a Christian hero and discuss whether the church should have <em>any</em> heroes aside from Jesus.</p><p></p><ul><li>(01:44) – – Through the Wardrobe </li> <li>(31:40) – – Be Our Guest </li> <li>(44:16) – – For Arguments Sake</li> </ul>

The Spiritual Disciplines
<p>John Mark Comer’s <em>Practicing the Way</em> has become a Christian bestseller since its publication last year.</p><p>It’s part of a new wave of books focusing on the ‘spiritual disciplines’.</p><p>This week, our hosts delve into what these disciplines are and how we can approach them in a biblical manner.</p><p>Author Alex Sosler then joins the show to discuss modern approaches to discipleship, before our hosts review the hit Netflix docudrama <em>Apple Cider Vinegar.</em></p>
Hope in Crisis
Tim Costello, Executive Director of Micah Australia, speaks to Christian voices around the world who are on the front-line of bringing hope and social change.

An Aussie Doctor on COVID-19 in the developing world – Dr Ian Marr
Ian never wanted to be a doctor. But after seeing the gaps in diagnostic testing available in the developing world, he pursued a career as an Infectious Disease Physician. Ian was working in Timor-Leste when COVID-19 struck, and explains the pandemic’s devastating impact on this small nation.

End COVID For All – Tim Costello
COVID-19 is not over for anyone, until it’s over for everyone. And while Australia has been a leader in ‘flattening the curve’, too many of our global neighbours are far worse off. In fact, they’re in crisis. Tim Costello talks exclusively about why Micah Australia have taken the lead on a nationwide campaign called #EndCOVIDForAll.

Hope on the streets of Lesotho – Josh and Belinda Groves
Eight years ago Belinda went to the African nation of Lesotho to help oversee national elections. After being confronted by hundreds of children living on the streets, she never came back to Australia. Josh and Belinda Groves share their story of leaving comfortable lives, to rehabilitate children living on the streets of Lesotho.
Life in Wartime
The COVID-19 epidemic has brought upon us all the moral challenges associated with living in a state of constant conflict. We have to choose how we’re going to respond to this global threat day by day, and David Robertson and Stephen McAlpine from Third Space are here to help you think through the implications of the messages we’re hearing, and how God would have us live in these challenging times.

Evangelism In Wartime
Since Jesus’ granting of the Great Commission, in season and out, His followers have sought to spread the good news. But what does evangelism look like in a world locked down by anxiety?

The Weapons of Wartime
In the penultimate episode of Life In Wartime, David Robertson and Stephen McAlpine discuss the weapons open to the Christian in trying times such as these.
Love Online
Welcome to Love Online, the podcast that aims to give you a practical Christian approach to the world of online dating. Join host Mel Wade as she ticks off all of the key issues, top questions, and common mistakes associated with pursuing a partner in the online world. Assisted by an international cast of experienced online daters and dedicated Christians, Mel and the Love Online crew get you ready to start looking for that person who will point you to the greatest person of all.

Am I just lonely?
Is there a point to dating – or am I just lonely? And if God wants me to date, what is it he’s looking for in a prospective partner?

Why date online?
So you’ve decided God’s got someone special for you out there. Why go looking for her or him online? What are the advantages to online dating?

Profile me
How do you faithfully summarise yourself in a few sentences? And how can you do it in a way that makes your faith in Jesus something that’s a natural part of your character? Join Mel Wade for step one in your online dating experience.
Run Like A Woman
Run Like a Woman shines a light on the experiences of ordinary Australian Christian women. From stories of resilience to practical advice, women share about their lives and how their faith has guided, sustained and grown them. Hosted by Penny Mulvey and Bec Abbott, Run Like a Woman is part of the Eternity Podcast Network, which thousands of listeners tune into every week. We hope this podcast will offer you encouragement, community and inspiration. “Hearing raw, honest stories from other Christian women is a truly powerful thing. Even if their experience is different to mine, I have found it relatable and often healing. It resonates with me for a long time afterwards.” – a Run Like a Woman listener RSSVERIFY

Mother, Daughter and the Black Cloud of Depression
One in five young Australians say they are struggling with their mental health, and suicide is the leading cause of death for those aged 15-24. So how do parents cope when it’s their child who doesn’t want to live? Run Like a Woman’s co-host Penny Mulvey and her daughter Holly open up about their personal journey with anxiety and depression.

Beating Burnout
Researching and writing about spirituality may sound a bit airy-fairy, but as Robyn Wrigley-Carr discovered, it’s actually intensely practical. When Robyn hit burnout, she turned to biblical wisdom and spiritual practices to help her recover.
SALT
Jenny Salt is a Christian academic, a graduate and former lecturer at Sydney Missionary and Bible College (SMBC). Join her on a forty-minute journey into someone’s amazing and often unexpected spiritual travels. Missionaries and media makers, scientists and sportspeople, new agers and new migrants – Salt is a chance to enter into the lives of people and discover heartwarming, sometimes challenging and always extraordinary gospel stories.

The paramedic’s mate – Mal
<p>This episode Jenny Salt talks to Mal York.</p>

Faith under fire – David
<p>Jenny’s guest today is David.</p>
Undeceptions
Every week on Undeceptions we’ll explore some aspect of life, faith, history, culture, or ethics that is either much misunderstood or mostly forgotten. With the help of people who know what they’re talking about, we’ll be trying to ‘undeceive ourselves’ and let the truth ‘out’.
REWIND: Emotional Intelligence
<p>Some think we might not be too far away from Artificial Intelligence actually having feelings. If it does happen, what will it mean? Might it mean we humans are, in the end, just machines? We look back at that question – and more – in this <em>Undeceptions </em>Rewind!</p><p>If you like what you hear, listen to the episode in full: Episode 71 ‘Emotional Intelligence’.</p>

Boy Jesus
<p><strong>The Gospels tell us about Jesus’ adult life, with scant references to his childhood.<br></strong><br></p><p><strong>We can catch glimpses of the younger Jesus’ life, but there’s so much we don’t know.<br></strong><br></p><p><strong>But if we move beyond the Bible, we </strong><strong><em>can</em></strong><strong> learn about the world the younger Jesus lived in.<br></strong><br></p><p><strong>Growing up a refugee, in a land under foreign occupation, and a region full of militia groups, it’s worth asking: How did the turbulent background of the boy Jesus affect His message … and the whole of Christianity?</strong></p><p>CREDITS</p><p>Undeceptions is hosted by John Dickson, produced by Kaley Payne and directed by Mark Hadley. </p><p><br></p><p>Alasdair Belling is a writer-researcher.</p><p><br></p><p>Siobhan McGuiness is our online librarian. </p><p><br></p><p>Lyndie Leviston remains John’s wonderful assistant. </p><p> </p><p>Santino Dimarco is the Chief Finance and Operations Consultant. </p><p><br></p><p>Editing by Richard Hamwi.</p><p><br></p><p>Our voice actors today were Yannick Lawry and Dakotah Love.</p><p><br></p><p>Special thanks to our series sponsor Zondervan for making this Undeception possible. </p><p><br></p><p>Undeceptions is the flagship podcast of Undeceptions.com – letting the truth out.</p><p><strong></strong></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:08) – – Judea: A difficult province to govern </li> <li>(08:42) – – Herod </li> <li>(16:48) – – Growing up Judean </li> <li>(21:00) – – Was Jesus actually from the line of King David? </li> <li>(29:35) – – The massacre of the innocents </li> <li>(33:31) – – Was Jesus born in Bethlehem? </li> <li>(42:28) – – Jesus the refugee </li> <li>(50:05) – – Growing up in Galilee </li> <li>(01:01:50) – – Jesus the patriot </li> <li>(01:04:44) – – BONUS! Joan Taylor and Monty Python </li> </ul>

The Chemists
<p><strong>According to the data, chemistry is the scientific discipline with the highest number of ”theists”.<br></strong><br></p><p><strong>Perhaps it’s not that surprising: Chemistry grew out of alchemy, a mysterious science that attempted to uncover the secrets of nature, with goals some would consider supernatural.<br></strong><br></p><p><strong>Modern chemists are also working to uncover the secrets of nature. <br></strong><br></p><p><strong>For some, seeing just how ordered the world is has led them to wonder whether there might be more going on behind the scenes than mere chemistry.</strong></p><p>CREDITS</p><p>Undeceptions is hosted by John Dickson, produced by Kaley Payne and directed by Mark Hadley. </p><p><br></p><p>Alasdair Belling is a writer-researcher.</p><p><br></p><p>Siobhan McGuiness is our online librarian. </p><p><br></p><p>Lyndie Leviston remains John’s wonderful assistant. </p><p> </p><p>Santino Dimarco is the Chief Finance and Operations Consultant. </p><p><br></p><p>Editing by Richard Hamwi.</p><p><br></p><p>Our voice actors today were Yannick Lawry and Dakotah Love.</p><p><br></p><p>Special thanks to our series sponsor Zondervan for making this Undeception possible. </p><p><br></p><p>Undeceptions is the flagship podcast of Undeceptions.com – letting the truth out.</p>
With all due Respect
Less aggro, more conversation. Is it even possible to have a deep discussion without it descending into chaos? Michael Jensen and Megan Powell du Toit think yes, and want to show the rest of us how to do it. There’s plenty of things they disagree on: free will, feminism, where you should send your kids to school and what type of church you should go to. But there are also plenty of other things that they have in common. They want to talk about all these things with conviction. But they also want the conversation to be constructive. Tune in to find out if that’s possible.

The Controlling Church
<p>This week, Michael and Megan tackle the difficult topic of church control. </p><p>They discuss how much—if any—control churches should be allowed to have over members and how to safeguard against any misuse of power by leaders.</p><p>Christian psychologist Kylie Walls then joins the show for a sobering discussion on spiritual abuse, before our hosts review the hit podcast <em>Sons of Patriarchy,</em> which deals with the hyper-conservative ministry of Douglas Wilson.</p><p>If this episode has raised concerns for you, help is available. Call 1800 737 732, or head to the website 1800respect.org.au.</p><p></p><ul><li>(01:20) – – For Arguments Sake </li> <li>(18:42) – – Be Our Guest </li> <li>(51:05) – – Through The Wardrobe</li> </ul>

Bonhoeffer
<p>The recent feature film ‘Bonhoeffer: Pastor. Spy. Assassin’ attracted controversy for its portrayal of Europe’s most celebrated martyr of the 20th century.</p><p>There are so many questions surrounding the life of Bonhoeffer – chief among them, how involved was he in the botched 20 July plot to kill Hitler?</p><p>Our hosts this week share their thoughts on the film and are also joined by Center for Pastor Theologians President Dr. Joel Lawrence to discuss Bonhoeffer’s life and work.</p><p>Finally, Michael and Megan try to define a Christian hero and discuss whether the church should have <em>any</em> heroes aside from Jesus.</p><p></p><ul><li>(01:44) – – Through the Wardrobe </li> <li>(31:40) – – Be Our Guest </li> <li>(44:16) – – For Arguments Sake</li> </ul>

The Spiritual Disciplines
<p>John Mark Comer’s <em>Practicing the Way</em> has become a Christian bestseller since its publication last year.</p><p>It’s part of a new wave of books focusing on the ‘spiritual disciplines’.</p><p>This week, our hosts delve into what these disciplines are and how we can approach them in a biblical manner.</p><p>Author Alex Sosler then joins the show to discuss modern approaches to discipleship, before our hosts review the hit Netflix docudrama <em>Apple Cider Vinegar.</em></p>
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The Controlling Church
<p>This week, Michael and Megan tackle the difficult topic of church control. </p><p>They discuss how much—if any—control churches should be allowed to have over members and how to safeguard against any misuse of power by leaders.</p><p>Christian psychologist Kylie Walls then joins the show for a sobering discussion on spiritual abuse, before our hosts review the hit podcast <em>Sons of Patriarchy,</em> which deals with the hyper-conservative ministry of Douglas Wilson.</p><p>If this episode has raised concerns for you, help is available. Call 1800 737 732, or head to the website 1800respect.org.au.</p><p></p><ul><li>(01:20) – – For Arguments Sake </li> <li>(18:42) – – Be Our Guest </li> <li>(51:05) – – Through The Wardrobe</li> </ul>
REWIND: Emotional Intelligence
<p>Some think we might not be too far away from Artificial Intelligence actually having feelings. If it does happen, what will it mean? Might it mean we humans are, in the end, just machines? We look back at that question – and more – in this <em>Undeceptions </em>Rewind!</p><p>If you like what you hear, listen to the episode in full: Episode 71 ‘Emotional Intelligence’.</p>

Boy Jesus
<p><strong>The Gospels tell us about Jesus’ adult life, with scant references to his childhood.<br></strong><br></p><p><strong>We can catch glimpses of the younger Jesus’ life, but there’s so much we don’t know.<br></strong><br></p><p><strong>But if we move beyond the Bible, we </strong><strong><em>can</em></strong><strong> learn about the world the younger Jesus lived in.<br></strong><br></p><p><strong>Growing up a refugee, in a land under foreign occupation, and a region full of militia groups, it’s worth asking: How did the turbulent background of the boy Jesus affect His message … and the whole of Christianity?</strong></p><p>CREDITS</p><p>Undeceptions is hosted by John Dickson, produced by Kaley Payne and directed by Mark Hadley. </p><p><br></p><p>Alasdair Belling is a writer-researcher.</p><p><br></p><p>Siobhan McGuiness is our online librarian. </p><p><br></p><p>Lyndie Leviston remains John’s wonderful assistant. </p><p> </p><p>Santino Dimarco is the Chief Finance and Operations Consultant. </p><p><br></p><p>Editing by Richard Hamwi.</p><p><br></p><p>Our voice actors today were Yannick Lawry and Dakotah Love.</p><p><br></p><p>Special thanks to our series sponsor Zondervan for making this Undeception possible. </p><p><br></p><p>Undeceptions is the flagship podcast of Undeceptions.com – letting the truth out.</p><p><strong></strong></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:08) – – Judea: A difficult province to govern </li> <li>(08:42) – – Herod </li> <li>(16:48) – – Growing up Judean </li> <li>(21:00) – – Was Jesus actually from the line of King David? </li> <li>(29:35) – – The massacre of the innocents </li> <li>(33:31) – – Was Jesus born in Bethlehem? </li> <li>(42:28) – – Jesus the refugee </li> <li>(50:05) – – Growing up in Galilee </li> <li>(01:01:50) – – Jesus the patriot </li> <li>(01:04:44) – – BONUS! Joan Taylor and Monty Python </li> </ul>

Bonhoeffer
<p>The recent feature film ‘Bonhoeffer: Pastor. Spy. Assassin’ attracted controversy for its portrayal of Europe’s most celebrated martyr of the 20th century.</p><p>There are so many questions surrounding the life of Bonhoeffer – chief among them, how involved was he in the botched 20 July plot to kill Hitler?</p><p>Our hosts this week share their thoughts on the film and are also joined by Center for Pastor Theologians President Dr. Joel Lawrence to discuss Bonhoeffer’s life and work.</p><p>Finally, Michael and Megan try to define a Christian hero and discuss whether the church should have <em>any</em> heroes aside from Jesus.</p><p></p><ul><li>(01:44) – – Through the Wardrobe </li> <li>(31:40) – – Be Our Guest </li> <li>(44:16) – – For Arguments Sake</li> </ul>

The Chemists
<p><strong>According to the data, chemistry is the scientific discipline with the highest number of ”theists”.<br></strong><br></p><p><strong>Perhaps it’s not that surprising: Chemistry grew out of alchemy, a mysterious science that attempted to uncover the secrets of nature, with goals some would consider supernatural.<br></strong><br></p><p><strong>Modern chemists are also working to uncover the secrets of nature. <br></strong><br></p><p><strong>For some, seeing just how ordered the world is has led them to wonder whether there might be more going on behind the scenes than mere chemistry.</strong></p><p>CREDITS</p><p>Undeceptions is hosted by John Dickson, produced by Kaley Payne and directed by Mark Hadley. </p><p><br></p><p>Alasdair Belling is a writer-researcher.</p><p><br></p><p>Siobhan McGuiness is our online librarian. </p><p><br></p><p>Lyndie Leviston remains John’s wonderful assistant. </p><p> </p><p>Santino Dimarco is the Chief Finance and Operations Consultant. </p><p><br></p><p>Editing by Richard Hamwi.</p><p><br></p><p>Our voice actors today were Yannick Lawry and Dakotah Love.</p><p><br></p><p>Special thanks to our series sponsor Zondervan for making this Undeception possible. </p><p><br></p><p>Undeceptions is the flagship podcast of Undeceptions.com – letting the truth out.</p>

God Laments
<p><strong>Like it or not, life will let us down. We all face disappointment.<br></strong><br></p><p><strong>Despite this, people spend their entire lives trying to avoid and outrun disappointment.<br></strong><br></p><p><strong>But the Bible offers a different solution.<br></strong><br></p><p><strong>It gives us the tools to feel and express disappointment. Tools to grieve well. Tools to lament.</strong></p><p><strong>But it doesn’t stop there.<br></strong><br></p><p><strong>In the Bible, we also find a God who sits with us in our grief and shares our disappointment.<br></strong><br></p><p><strong>We find a God who laments.</strong></p><p>CREDITS</p><p>Undeceptions is hosted by John Dickson, produced by Kaley Payne and directed by Mark Hadley. </p><p><br></p><p>Alasdair Belling is a writer-researcher.</p><p><br></p><p>Siobhan McGuiness is our online librarian. </p><p><br></p><p>Lyndie Leviston remains John’s wonderful assistant. </p><p> </p><p>Santino Dimarco is the Chief Finance and Operations Consultant. </p><p><br></p><p>Editing by Richard Hamwi.</p><p><br></p><p>Our voice actors today were Yannick Lawry and Dakotah Love.</p><p><br></p><p>Special thanks to our series sponsor Zondervan for making this Undeception possible. </p><p><br></p><p>Undeceptions is the flagship podcast of Undeceptions.com – letting the truth out.</p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) – – Intro </li> <li>(00:50) – – Anger at God </li> <li>(05:52) – – Drew Hyun: Writing books on disappointment </li> <li>(09:52) – – Han </li> <li>(17:56) – – The Psalms </li> <li>(34:34) – – The world, the flesh, and the Devil </li> <li>(38:31) – – Clean pain and dirty pain </li> <li>(50:11) – – Moral injury (CONTENT WARNING) </li> <li>(01:00:36) – – Laments in Jeremiah </li> <li>(01:03:42) – – Lamentations </li> <li>(01:06:13) – – How Christianity deals with pain </li> <li>(01:11:09) – – Jesus laments</li> </ul>
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